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Originally created by @davidvfx07 on GitHub (Jul 15, 2025).
Originally assigned to: @thdxr on GitHub.
Hi, I'm trying a local
Ollamamodel that supports tool calls (qwen3:32b). When I ask for example "What networks am I connected to?" the model just thinks about which tool to use to fulfill the request, but never does anything. Occasionally it will do something, as I've seen with prompts like "What's in my .config files?", and its seemingly correctly generating the tool-callJSONin the ballpark of{"Bash": "LS", ...}or something, but the command never actually executes anything and is just printed to the chat. I'd assume something isn't configured right or maybe theJSONtool call is not formatted correctly after all. I've confirmed it works withGithub Copilot GPT-4o, and all tools were enabled in my settings for both Copilot and Ollama. What is the expected workflow to getopencodeto actually run the command after the model suggests it?(I simplified my config for space here to whats important, but nothing else is different except just some other
Ollamamodels I added.)@alfonsodg commented on GitHub (Jul 15, 2025):
Same here , but i am using litellm in front of ollama for OpenAI compatibility adding a token
@davidvfx07 commented on GitHub (Jul 16, 2025):
Update with more models below.
TLDR, nothing works except cloud models. With Ollama, some models don't acknowledge having access to tools, some do but only explain what they would do and never actually try to do anything with them, some actually try but get the formatting wrong or are simply unrecognized by opencode, and some try to run tools and appear to be recognized by opencode but still don't do anything.
~~~~~~~~~~ OLLAMA ~~~~~~~~~~
Cogito v1 Preview 32B Q4_K_M (cogito:32b)User (2025-07-16 02:27:00)
What networks am I connect to?
Assistant (2025-07-16 02:27:00)
To determine which network your system is connected to, let me first try running some basic commands:
Devstral 24B Q_4_K_M (devstral:24b)User (2025-07-16 02:29:44)
What networks am I connected to?
Assistant (2025-07-16 02:29:44)
I'm unable to directly determine your network connections. However, you can typically find this information by checking your device's network settings or using command-line tools like
ifconfigon Unix-based systems oripconfigon Windows.If you're looking for guidance on how to check this for a specific operating system, let me know!
Qwen 3 32B (qwen3:32b)User (2025-07-16 02:33:13)
What networks am I connected to?
Assistant (2025-07-16 02:33:13)
Okay, the user is asking, "What networks am I connected to?" Let me think about how to approach this.First, I need to figure out which tools are available. The provided tools include functions like Glob, Grep, LS, Read, etc. But the user is asking about network connections, which might not be directly accessible through these tools.
Wait, there's the 'Bash' tool. Maybe I can run a command to check network connections. For example, on a Unix-based system, the 'netstat' command or 'ifconfig' could show network interfaces and connections. Alternatively, 'ip a' or 'nmcli' might be useful.
Since the user is likely working in a Linux environment, using 'bash' to execute a command like 'nmcli dev status' could list the network devices and their status. This command is part of NetworkManager, which is common in many Linux distributions.
But I should check if the Bash tool is available. Looking back at the tools listed, there is a 'task' function that launches an agent with access to Bash. So, maybe using the task function to run a Bash command would be the right approach here.
Alternatively, if the system doesn't have NetworkManager, maybe using 'ip a' or 'ifconfig' would be better. But without knowing the exact environment, 'nmcli' is a good starting point.
So, the plan is to use the 'task' function to execute a Bash command that checks network connections. The prompt for the agent should be to run the appropriate command and return the output.
Therefore, the function call would be to the 'task' function with a description "Check network connections" and a prompt instructing the agent to run the Bash command and return the result.
[Tool: task]
[Tool: task]
Okay, the user wants me to display the current network interfaces and their status. They mentioned examples like 'nmcli dev status' or 'ip a'. I need to decide which command to use.First, I should check which tool is more appropriate here. The 'ip a' command is part of the iproute2 suite and shows all network interfaces along with their addresses and status. The 'nmcli dev status' command is specific to NetworkManager and shows the status of devices managed by it. Since the user is asking for a general overview, 'ip a' might be more comprehensive as it doesn't rely on NetworkManager being present.
However, I should consider the environment. If the system uses NetworkManager, then 'nmcli' would provide useful info. But without knowing the system's configuration, I should opt for a command that's more universally available. 'ip a' is part of the standard Linux tools, so it's safer to use that.
So the correct function call is to execute 'ip a' using the Bash execute function. That should display all interfaces and their details.
Qwen2.5 Coder 32B Instruct IQ3_M (krith/qwen2.5-coder-32b-instruct:IQ3_M)User (2025-07-16 02:45:50)
What networks am I connected to?
Assistant (2025-07-16 02:45:50)
{"name": "task", "arguments": {"description": "Check network connections", "prompt": "Research and report the current network connections by using system commands like ipconfig (Windows) or ifconfig/ifdata (Linux)."}}User (2025-07-16 02:46:09)
What is Rust?
Assistant (2025-07-16 02:46:09)
To provide information about Rust without launching an agent or reading specific files, I can summarize the key points about Rust here:
Rust is a systems programming language created by Mozilla Research. It aims to empower all developers to build reliable and efficient software. Rust does this by providing low-level control over hardware resources while also preventing many of the errors that plague other languages at compile time.
Key features of Rust include:
If you would like more detailed information about Rust, such as specific features, use cases, or comparisons to other languages, please let me know!
User (2025-07-16 02:46:27)
Whats my username?
Assistant (2025-07-16 02:46:27)
I don't have access to your specific system information or user settings, so I can't provide your username. If you need to find out your username on a particular system, you might consider checking the terminal on Linux or macOS by running
whoami, or on Windows by typingecho %username%in Command Prompt.Is there something else specific you'd like help with?
User (2025-07-16 02:46:38)
What networks am I connected to?
Assistant (2025-07-16 02:46:38)
task {"description": "check network connections", "prompt": "Identify all active network interfaces and their IP addresses on the local machine. Do not write code; just return a concise summary of the network connections."}~~~~~~~~~~ CLOUD ~~~~~~~~~~
GPT4o via GitHub Copilot(it doesn't say but it ran nmcli, iwconfig, and ifconfig which is great. Local IPs hidden in paranoia.)User (2025-07-16 02:39:08)
What networks am I connected to?
Assistant (2025-07-16 02:39:08)
[Tool: bash]
[Tool: bash]
[Tool: bash]
[Tool: bash]
You are connected to the following networks:
Loopback (lo):
Ethernet (enp7s0):
Wi-Fi (wlp8s0):
Let me know if you need further details or assistance!
Claude Sonnet 3.5 via GitHub CopilotUser (2025-07-16 02:58:27)
What networks am I connected to?
Assistant (2025-07-16 02:58:27)
[Tool: bash]
[Tool: bash]
You are connected to:
@thdxr commented on GitHub (Jul 16, 2025):
local LLMs are not yet ready for this kind of workload
@alfonsodg commented on GitHub (Jul 16, 2025):
Please explain... in my startup we use all the big models but also we have a big server with devstral, deepseek and qwen that helps a lot to develop... exactly what problems have local LLMs ?
@davidvfx07 commented on GitHub (Jul 16, 2025):
Interesting. Is this an inherent issue with open models, like limited parameter count or with how open models are fine-tuned at the moment for tool calling? Either way, projects like open-interpreter seem to circumvent this, I think by ditching the standard tool calling protocol or something like that. Could open-interpreter be integrated, available as a provider, or possibly be given an openai compatible API and local endpoint of its own just like Ollama has?
@alfonsodg commented on GitHub (Jul 16, 2025):
In fact we are using ollama but with litellm for openai compatibility.
And we are coding really well with cline or kilocode however i prefer the cli and right now i haven't tested a good cli coding agent Open source. For that we mainly use géminis code assist and Amazon q developer
@renich commented on GitHub (Jul 18, 2025):
OK. ollama user here in Fedora 42.
I was looking for this solution for a while. This is why I'm posting it here (and all issues) for all to know:
@p-lemonish discovered why and the fix is easy: https://github.com/p-lemonish/ollama-x-opencode
In short, download a model that has tool capabilities:
After that, you're good to go. Just try it out:
With a bit of luck, your file will be there.
Credits:
Pre-requisites
My configuration looks like this:
Notes
@thdxr commented on GitHub (Jul 18, 2025):
thanks for writing that up!
to clarify what i said earlier - what i meant was the majority of models do not have a great out of the box experience for the type of workload that opencode asks from them
calling tools in a loop, being persistent, working around mistakes/errors
sonnet, gpt4.1, and k2 are good at this workload
other models can be made to work by playing with system prompt / parameters but we likely need research like the above post to figure out how to get them to behave well
@fantomac commented on GitHub (Jul 23, 2025):
@renich
Thanks a lot, it's working for me with qwen3:14b directly from Ollama (not with docker).
I just /set and /save parameter num_ctx 16384
@pbrass commented on GitHub (Jul 29, 2025):
When I use mlx-omni-server to serve Qwen3-Coder, I can easily get it to call tools, but opencode doesn't perform the tool calls:
list files in the current directory
pbrass (10:00 PM)
[lists files in the current directory]
<tool_call> <function=list> <parameter=path> /Users/pbrass/ai/test1 </tool_call>
mlx-community/Qwen3-Coder-480B-A35B-Instruct-4bit (10:00 PM)
The model sends the <tool_call> request, but for some reason it doesn't get executed. I feel like I"m this close to getting it working. I wonder what part of response parsing isn't working.
@ggaabe commented on GitHub (Jul 30, 2025):
similar tool call issue for me; it was working a couple weeks ago with devstral, wondering if a new error was introduced
@maiterth commented on GitHub (Jul 30, 2025):
The fix is relatively easy: and described here: https://github.com/p-lemonish/ollama-x-opencode
Short answer is: Your local run does not have a large enough context window.
Two things that are not mentioned:
and save your model that has the num_ctx setting set (above 16k!, check your model how large it can be, and keep performance in mind.)
Jokes aside, the two parts I was missing are: I assumed my local ollama was running on the GPU, it was not. And the larger context window was too much for the CPU to handle. Careful since larger context sizes will be quite demanding.
Just tried on a beefy workstation with devstral and 192k context window and works like a charm (faster than most web based API).
Tried on my home workstations GPU at 16k context window, tokens trickling out slowly, but it works.
@vytas7 commented on GitHub (Aug 3, 2025):
For me using a larger context with Qwen3 sort of works, however it fails to edit files intermittently with various errors along the lines of:
Sometimes it succeeds, and sometimes it is able to recover from errors via its reasoning chains, but still it's something that partially prevents effective use.
I understand that technically the model is probably not generating the correct call, but maybe the tool itself could be made more error-tolerant or use a different paradigm?
When it needs to read or write the entire file, it seems to work just fine.
@ahmed-rezk-dev commented on GitHub (Aug 13, 2025):
Same here.
@davidvfx07 commented on GitHub (Aug 15, 2025):
Sorry I'm so late to the party, but yes, setting
num_ctxto16384helped tremendously. Its not quite there still, but at least it seems to detect all the tools. Its not very good at using them, but its a start. One such example is when I would ask"What networks am I connected to?"and even though it had thebashtool, it wouldn't use it to runnmclietc, and it expected a dedicated network probe tool every time so far.I've also found that somewhere its being told to be concise, but I dont know where. At least
Qwen3 Thinking 30Btakes this to the extreme, and essentially outputs just the raw output of the tool with no explanation or conversation, and it does the same for mathematical problems or code syntax questions.@davidvfx07 commented on GitHub (Aug 15, 2025):
This would be very nice. It's hard for a local 30B model to follow rules so strictly (I've personally found). Tolerable tool call paradigms probably means more ML to understand them when they're broken. If a dedicated tiny model can be fine tuned for this specifically and shimmed between the tool call and the parser, that would be super cool and would make the tool calling far more robust at very little cost (I'd imagine).
@zendril commented on GitHub (Aug 23, 2025):
The experience that I have had is that it will often print out the tool call it wants to make then do nothing.
What I just found tonight is if I send another prompt in like just
.or even?, it will then do the tool call.. and then another . or ? and it will spit out some more.It is really weird.
I have 48k of context set, tool and reasoning enabled.
Same behavior for qwen3 and qwen3-coder (the latter being the version where tool calling was fixed).
Anyone else have that behavior or thoughts on this?
@javapapo commented on GitHub (Aug 27, 2025):
I can confirm the above -
I have increased the context - it helped because previous it was not working at all -but now acknowledges the command and does nothing
{ "$schema": "https://opencode.ai/config.json", "provider": { "ollama": { "npm": "@ai-sdk/openai-compatible", "options": { "baseURL": "http://localhost:11434/v1" }, "models": { "qwen2.5-coder": { "tools": true } } } } }@p-lemonish commented on GitHub (Aug 27, 2025):
@javapapo
Qwen2.5 doesn't support tool calls. Use qwen3 coder instead!
@thdxr commented on GitHub (Aug 27, 2025):
ollama has been unreliable and we receive a large number of issues from people trying to use it
we recommend using LMStudio as it works decently out of the box with qwen3 coder
@vytas7 commented on GitHub (Aug 27, 2025):
LMStudio is not open source though, so it is not really comparable. I suppose it could perhaps be sandboxed and firewalled, but it is still extra effort. Of course I cannot speak for all Ollama users, but one of the reasons to run Ollama is that it is easier to make sure your or your customers' sensitive data is not sent to the cloud.
Do we know that Ollama generates different, unreliable responses using the same Qwen3 models? That also sounds a bit strange.
@javapapo commented on GitHub (Aug 27, 2025):
As a user I do agree with @vytas7 . I am actually one of the many around the internet trying to find a replacement for Claude-Code CLI but not calling claude and call something local. Among the different tools available, definitely opencode is the most mature - but I do struggle with ollama.
I made it work with LM Studio - but was kind of slow - maybe is my config.
By the way qwen3-coder seems not to support tools :(
qwen3-coder:latest{ "$schema": "https://opencode.ai/config.json", "provider": { "ollama": { "npm": "@ai-sdk/openai-compatible", "options": { "baseURL": "http://localhost:11434/v1" },qwen3-coder:latest "models": { "qwen3-coder": { "tools": true } } } } }@p-lemonish commented on GitHub (Aug 28, 2025):
@javapapo Qwen3-coder was specifically designed for agentic tools. If ollama says it's not usable then it's wrong. Try to use tools after removing that line of yaml ""tools": true". Otherwise it's time to switch to llama.cpp
@javapapo commented on GitHub (Aug 28, 2025):
fair thanks for the reply.
@zendril commented on GitHub (Aug 28, 2025):
FYI, The first releases of Qwen3-coder had metadata wrong and tools were
not in the metadata. That's why a number of other versions of this popped
up addressing it.
I used those versions (and even created my own), but I have almost no luck
getting opencode to reliably get models to make tool calls via ollama.
Also used llama.cpp and lmstudio with very little luck. I dearly want to
use/love opencode, but I haven't had much success.
For reference, I have a 24gb 5090 so I'm not just trying out the small
parameter models, and I also bump up the default 4096 context, but still no
luck.
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@p-lemonish commented on GitHub (Aug 29, 2025):
I had this issue too, but updating to the newest version helped immediately. I have managed to get the basic agentic tools working without issues. For anything specific I have created my own MCP with python and had the model use that tool through it. I didn't try using the MCP for a couple months now, but it worked fine before.
For general MCP from various providers off the internet I feel was too "chaotic" or not standardized enough to work well or at all.
Interesting that with llama.cpp it's not working for you. You can probably use llama logs to debug the issue.
@zendril commented on GitHub (Aug 29, 2025):
To be clear, you updated to the latest version of what? Opencode, Qwen3
Coder, Ollama, llama.cpp?
I'll give it another run once I hear what your working setup is.
Thanks!
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@p-lemonish commented on GitHub (Aug 29, 2025):
Sorry, wasn't clear enough. I had an out of date Qwen3-coder, the first one that came out, but didn't use it since. Started using it again and found out that it didn't work, but it gave quite specific error messages about not finding tools or understanding it; I found people were talking about broken metadata for qwen3-coder and were prompting all users to update to the newest version of qwen3-coder. I updated to the newest version from unsloth some days ago and it has worked now.
llama.cpp version: build: 5827 (67d1ef23) with cc (Ubuntu 11.4.0-1ubuntu1~22.04) 11.4.0 for x86_64-linux-gnu
Didn't update that for a while either. For opencode it seems to work with any given version I've been on, it's auto-updating for me.
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